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If the Central Powers win quickly, What Happens to the KUK?

Following the line started by Big Dave earlier.  What happens to the Austro-Hungarian fleet in aquick Central Powers win?1.  As mentioned, the Central powers Win By late 1915 and start signing...

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I think my answer to Mudfladdy is that since A-H was a "winner", (sort of) for purposes of this thread, I would put her post-war economy roughly the equal of France for military money purposes....

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Well, yes - the austrians will have a navy. my question was - will they build very expensive large battleships after a devasting war with a lot internal troubles, with the sub showing its superiority...

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Hmmm. Not so sure that what you postulate could break the Otranto Narrows Barrage. Harass? Yes. Break? IMO, no. You don't have the "mass" to fight off divisions of fast light cruisers that would...

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If A-H is on the winning side, then they get Valona as a base and the KKK does not have to force the Otranto Narrows Barrage. There simply is no Otranto Narrows Barrage. Borys

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Sorry - borys68 made clear what i missed to explain correctly. the KKK will have one side of the narrow, so the italians (maybe with the french? But i doubt after the CP victory france will ever come...

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Bory and Mudfladdy, Please note Condition #2 of the OP. Unless A-H decides that attacking the Italians in Albania is worth breaking Italian neutrality, A-H will not be able to demand Vlore (Valona)...

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Oh, I forgot that point So the Italians keep Valona - I assume that in secret treatties keeping Italy neutral Rome will get A-H to recognise its presence there. If I was A-H I'd promise Italy the moon...

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@thecroft47: Well, if the italians could still close the straits i think the austrians will even more concentrate on fast light ships with range... say some destroyer or small cruiser that is fast...

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Mudfladdy wrote:@thecroft47: Well, if the italians could still close the straits i think the austrians will even more concentrate on fast light ships with range... say some destroyer or small cruiser...

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~~Hi Steve, i doubt we ever will agree about „the bad guy“ in a post-WW1-scenario  For me OTL the british and French are the bad guy (starving 800.000 civilians to death), next to the osmans. OTL the...

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Mudfladdy Taking points in order and hopefully not missing anything. a) It sounds like I took you too literally, when you said “ If the arabs had revolted before the war end the osmans will "solve"...

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 i allways like your comments – even if i disagree to them  So no problem. Because I am to stupid to use the comment/answering function I will answer your points: a.) Well, german is my mother...

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Re: If the Central Powers win quickly, What Happens to the KUK?

i allways like your comments – even if i disagree to them  So no problem. Because I am to stupid to use the comment/answering function I will answer your points: a.) Well, german is my mother...

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Well, well, well. This thread has certainly wandered down some different roads. Some easy potshots. 1. Why does Germany keep Belgium? Or is that the trade off? Belgium for King Leopolds private...

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  Mudfladdy  Trying to answer the points.  As you may guess I disagree strongly on some of them.Point a) – In general agreement, we got a misunderstanding of concept and terminology.Point b) – I hope...

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Hi Steve, We will disagree about some points strongly. As I love a lot of your qualified comments, you still are acting similar as a “Holocaust”denyer…. (not that i think you would appologize the nazi...

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Re: If the Central Powers win quickly, What Happens to the KUK?

Hi Steve, We will disagree about some points strongly. As I love a lot of your qualified comments, you still are acting similar as a “Holocaust”denyer…. (not that i think you would appologize the nazi...

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I'm going to let you two argue on, However, what I really would like is a KuK composition answer. Are hordes of torpedo boats a form of sea control, or show of weakness?

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Re: If the Central Powers win quickly, What Happens to the KUK?

thecroft47 wrote:I'm going to let you two argue on, However, what I really would like is a KuK composition answer. Are hordes of torpedo boats a form of sea control, or show of weakness?  thecroft47...

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Enjoy your trip. I can relate to being out of contact. We travel constantly and when a campground has poor wifi, I am often "gone" for weeks at a time.

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